Before
After
The diagram above descrives the ideas we talked about today. The latice shed rotates and moves closer to the sitting area. The Storage shed moves closer to the planting beds and the handicap planting beds are behind the latice. The one thing we considered was having two possible entrances to the shed. One for the handicap people and the other for the people that will work in the garden, we also thought this will provide an easier circulation pattern.
This diagram is up for discussion! so comment away!
Team - I really think that this layout works extremely well. Now you have sell it!
ReplyDeleteYou must be able to answer the following questions convincingly next week:
How will you handle the electrical and water supplies and meters?
Is the existing lattice shed (plant shed) being moved or is your plan to build a new one? (I suggest that we propose a new structure, but you will need a design!)
Do you enter the garden through the shed?
Is that a new fence between the handicapped accessible area & garden?
What is the material for the handicapped accessible area? Concrete? Brick pavers? Concrete pavers? Stone dust?
How they get the snow blower out? Do they use the single swing door at the HP access area?
How would this work if the existing ramp was to remain but the shed was moved to the proposed location?
Where did the sliding barn doors go? If you keep the swing doors you might want to consider moving off center to avoid conflict w/ the planting bed.
What happens too or how do you resolve the trellis along the backwall of the upper area? Does it turn and create a gateway / opening from the top of the ramp to the brick patio?
How long is the ramp? 1:12 slope, so if the elevation change is 30" it = a 30' ramp. Longest run without at level landing is 30'. You need to be able to definitely answer the elevation change and how it affects the length of the new ramp. If you go with a slope of 1:20 then you need a ramp 50' long with a 4' level landing, but you can remove the railings.
Does anyone know how to use Sketchup? A good quick 3D model of this scheme would go a real long way to selling it. The changes in levels and particularly what you are going to do with the lattice shed must be resolved and easy for the client to read and understand.
Pat
One additional question that I forgot. What happens if they insist on rebuilding in the current location? What is you response to that?
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ReplyDeleteIn the 10/14 diagram "after":
It is good to see so much progress.
A few thoughts -
- LATTICE SHED
Does the lattice shed and the new storage tools storage block the view out to the street and entrance too much? The upper seating area may be a little too "walled off". Worse now than when only the lattice shed blocked the view.
- HC ACCESS
Much of the thinking behind HC participation in "everyday" activities is to NOT have challenged folk be in a DIFFERENT area, but rather in an accessible part of everybody else's area. So having only those first two boxes at the entry is a mistake. They should be down with everybody else's, with a path connecting.
- ENTRANCE ROUTE
Generous outdoor "foyer" is much better, and ramp access is clear upon entering. But I think you also have to come directly into the main gardens area directly from the "foyer", and not have to go up the ramp and around first.
- RAMP LOCATION
I'm not so sure about relocating the ramp, at least not to the place shown. In the new design, everyone has to walk through the chairs of the seating area to get to the New Shed, and to the stairs down. The seating area is no longer in a "cul de sac" (or alcove) away from circulation, a little back from the main traffic, and with a hint of privacy.
- HC TRAVEL SURFACE
There is a good example of a gravel surface that is handicap accessible in the small park just in front of the New England Aquarium, of off Atlanitic Avenue. It is a typical French construction used at the Tuilleries and the Jardin de Luxembourg in Paris - hard clay (Marl) tamped down on a base, covered lightly with a fine pea-gravel. Rain-water is absorbed, and the surface is firm enough for wheelchairs, baby carriages, wheel-barrows, and other wheeled vehicles. Lower maintenance than grass, and rather friendly.
You are all pressing on with good development. Cheers!
TODD
From RICK LAMB
ReplyDeleteMy general reactions are as follows:
1. I see a very reasonable presentation for the placement of both the lattice shed and the tool shed.
2. In making that move, does the shed have to remain the long rectangle? Does the shed shade too much the two beds behind it and do they become too isolated? What happens if the tool shed were boxier and over lapped the lattice shed, allowing the accessible beds to be located off the end or side of the tool shed?
3. The entry space becomes quite grand perhaps too grand?
4. As the tool shed opens toward the garden space, should there be a bench incorporated with the tool shed?
5. Does the trellis at the sitting area run right over the newly positioned ramp m- starting with a higher roof and arriving at the sitting area with a lower roof? Trellis would allow for a simple "box" to house the utility meters.
The move is a good bold one that needs a little more clarity of the newly created spaces.
Looking forward to Friday.
Rick Lamb